In the first of what we hope will be a series of interviews with the Resistance, Greg Olear of Dirty Rubles fame does indeed talk Trump/Russia with AG of the quite excellent Mueller, She Wrote podcast at the quite excellent Blue Drop Society. Excerpt? Word.
What was the impetus behind MSW? Tell us the origin story.
When I started to see the early parallels between Watergate and the Mueller investigation, I realized the historical significance of this probe, and honestly, I wanted to be part of documenting it. The catalyst was the indictment of Manafort and Gates. I realized that day that I wanted to cover this story, so I went out and bought microphones and asked Jaleesa and Jordan if they wanted to be part of it, and we recorded that weekend.
I like to imagine that you guys all live in the same cool residential housing complex, like Melrose Place, but with Special Counsels. Muellerose Place, let’s call it. [insert groaning noise]
But seriously, I don’t want to ask anything too personal and blow your cover, but did you know them before? Was it like you have a big circle of friends and you three were the only ones following the investigation?
Well, I needed help and I wanted to have a diverse panel. I knew there would be questions about my reporting, and I wanted people younger than me that would ask them. I also knew them from the comedy scene and saw in Jaleesa and Jordan two extraordinarily funny women. Finally, I wanted an all-female panel because I think women experience justice differently from men. We all agree justice is blind and fair, but I think women have an empathy for justice that’s just more compassionate.
At what point were you personally convinced that Trump had colluded (for wont of a better, more legally-accurate word) with the Russians?
It was before the election. The New York Times had written an article with a very misleading headline, but in paragraph six they indicated there was Russian interference with a penchant for helping Trump. That’s when I began paying attention. The IC report is what convinced me beyond a reasonable doubt.